WB already changing the 'story'

[Aske]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22545995/

last week it was because "consumers chose"

what they really meant to say was "consumers were choosing to buy gas , not dvds (or hdm) and so we just took a nice fat bribe since we wouldn't make that much on hdm anyways, at least till the economy no longer sucks" 

so yeh, back the more expensive (manufacturing side, and consumer side) product in a shiat economy ? 

[Uisce Beatha]

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[Aske]

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definitely agree (and did since day 1 it would be so if  bda/$ony  won)

just funny that this new comment comes less than 1 week after "the consumers chose bluray blah blah blah"


so ga$ is up, $15 dvd sales are down,  thus pick bluray to end confusion, and $25 bluray sales will increase?
 


http://arstechnica.com/ne...blu-ray-counterparts.html

interesting discussion in here (admittedly very old) about cost/speed of BD manufacturing

[Uisce Beatha]

DVD wins.

I'll get a BD player just because I think high-def is wicked cool and I'm not exactly lower middle income.  But would I recommend it to my mom/stepfather/cousin/friends?  No, I'd say get a display, HD programming and a good up-converter.  If they expressed an early adopter attitude then we could start talking.

It's going to be a niche market forever unless HD-DVD pulls a Lazarus and Toshiba/Microsoft figure out a winning strategy.

Ah well.  Next!!!

[gleek]

It's going to be a niche market forever unless HD-DVD pulls a Lazarus and Toshiba/Microsoft figure out a winning strategy.

They can start by buying their own studios. OTOH, I once heard on CNBC Squawkbox that the entire film industry has a market size of about $6 billion per year. The host Joe Kernen was shocked to find out how small the size of that market is. I vaguely remember him remarkeing that that figure amounts to the quarterly revenues of a medium-sized auto parts manufacturer. IOW, it might not even be a market worth fighting for.

[Aske]

It's going to be a niche market forever unless HD-DVD pulls a Lazarus and Toshiba/Microsoft figure out a winning strategy.

They can start by buying their own studios. OTOH, I once heard on CNBC Squawkbox that the entire film industry has a market size of about $6 billion per year. The host Joe Kernen was shocked to find out how small the size of that market is. I vaguely remember him remarkeing that that figure amounts to the quarterly revenues of a medium-sized auto parts manufacturer. IOW, it might not even be a market worth fighting for.

that $6B might be the worldwide theatre box office,  home video is way bigger than $6B

[Aske]

DVD wins.

I'll get a BD player just because I think high-def is wicked cool and I'm not exactly lower middle income.  But would I recommend it to my mom/stepfather/cousin/friends?  No, I'd say get a display, HD programming and a good up-converter.  If they expressed an early adopter attitude then we could start talking.

It's going to be a niche market forever unless HD-DVD pulls a Lazarus and Toshiba/Microsoft figure out a winning strategy.

Ah well.  Next!!!

like i said in the other thread,  i still can't believe m$ is just giving in to sony for optical format on the xbox720 (or whatever it may be)   granted they are also vested in downloads and other interests/revenue streams,  but can you imagine giving your direct competition those kind of royalty/licensing fees  PER DRIVE AND PER DISC ? 
 

[Uisce Beatha]

xbox720

I'm no MS fan but xBox360 --> xBox1080 with a built-in drive would be seriously serendipitous. 

[gleek]

It's going to be a niche market forever unless HD-DVD pulls a Lazarus and Toshiba/Microsoft figure out a winning strategy.

They can start by buying their own studios. OTOH, I once heard on CNBC Squawkbox that the entire film industry has a market size of about $6 billion per year. The host Joe Kernen was shocked to find out how small the size of that market is. I vaguely remember him remarkeing that that figure amounts to the quarterly revenues of a medium-sized auto parts manufacturer. IOW, it might not even be a market worth fighting for.

that $6B might be the worldwide theatre box office,  home video is way bigger than $6B

I think the figure was for U.S.-only, and it was awhile ago (probably around 1998-1999). But I do think it included home video. If you look at these charts, which I'm sure include home video, $6B in annual revenues 10 years ago might be in-line with what the current size is (~$9.5B).

[Aske]

It's going to be a niche market forever unless HD-DVD pulls a Lazarus and Toshiba/Microsoft figure out a winning strategy.

They can start by buying their own studios. OTOH, I once heard on CNBC Squawkbox that the entire film industry has a market size of about $6 billion per year. The host Joe Kernen was shocked to find out how small the size of that market is. I vaguely remember him remarkeing that that figure amounts to the quarterly revenues of a medium-sized auto parts manufacturer. IOW, it might not even be a market worth fighting for.

that $6B might be the worldwide theatre box office,  home video is way bigger than $6B

I think the figure was for U.S.-only, and it was awhile ago (probably around 1998-1999). But I do think it included home video. If you look at these charts, which I'm sure include home video, $6B in annual revenues 10 years ago might be in-line with what the current size is (~$9.5B).

ok, i'd probably believe $10B  U$A total.