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Re: [Politics/Religion] Debate
« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2008, 07:15:52 AM »

I'm kinda in the same demo as Clive. And pardon if someone has said this, but putting all the politicking aside, there is something about McCain not looking Obama in the eye that gets to me, there is also this uneasy smile he has.
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Re: [Politics/Religion] Debate
« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2008, 07:58:52 AM »

IMO, McGrommits won handily, by not failing miserably

I now totally understand his campaign strategy.  It is to stumble and bumble his way around, then look halfway reasonable at these debates, thereby exceeding everyone's expectations and proving the media pundits hate him and are ruthlessly antagonistic towards Gov. Mother Sarah.

This sort of thing solidifies the base the way a blood clots congeal in a cadaver.
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Re: [Politics/Religion] Debate
« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2008, 05:02:07 PM »

http://www.cbsnews.com/bl...heroad/entry4483098.shtml

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Re: [Politics/Religion] Debate
« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2008, 05:24:21 PM »

LMAO

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Re: [Politics/Religion] Debate
« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2008, 07:38:20 PM »

This debate(s) is to convince those 5-10% of voters who are still undecideds  or the 1-2% who are firmly committed along party lines but can be flipped when actually hearing/seeing these people talk--- certainly not the vast majority of people.  And I think to those undecideds-- the "independents", the ones who actually vote both parties every year, etc...   McCain came out horrible IMHO.
FWIW, I haven't followed much of the early campaigning of either party.  I'm registered as "Unaffiliated" in NC.  I *think* I'm pretty much the demographic these guys are trying to reach in the debates.

I watched it and thought it was pretty even.  Neither candidate came across as lost, hopelessly out of touch, insincere, etc.  McCain seemed more aggressive, which I'm not big on.  I especially did not like the repeated "doesn't understand" charge -- I'll decide if he doesn't understand, thanks, and don't talk down to me.  Both guys stretched the truth or took things out of context to "punk" the other; that didn't do either one much good in my eyes.

This debate wasn't enough to push me firmly in either direction.  Then again, I wasn't drunk when I watched it.

Clive, there's a huge difference between being a registered as an Independent or Unaffiliated and being "undecided". I'm registered as an Independent, but at this point you'd have to put a gun to my head to force me to vote for McCain. (And I say this because I don't foresee anything happening in the next 40+ days that would be considered a "game changer". If the Repugs are going to release a video of Obama shaking hands with Bin Laden, they would have done it by now.)

Out of curiosity, if you truly are undecided, what do you think it would take to swing your vote either way?
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Re: [Politics/Religion] Debate
« Reply #35 on: September 29, 2008, 10:46:22 AM »

All Obama had to do was not look stupid, which he did quite well, and not look 'Uppity'.

Now all he has to do is spend the next 5 weeks saying:

'John McCain is a Republican, and look where that got us.'

Message discipline is key right now.

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