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WTF. Hate!
« on: December 09, 2008, 09:29:29 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2008, 09:34:08 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2008, 09:41:35 AM »

Someone else summed it up on Fark...
to the effect of "I'd rather watch the worst L+O episode of all time, that I've already seen 4 times than watch the best of Leno"

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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2008, 09:44:21 AM »

Anyways, this decision should finally put the average daily scripted serials content below 50% of the total primetime available time... 
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2008, 09:53:06 AM »

Anyways, this decision should finally put the average daily scripted serials content below 50% of the total primetime available time... 

Follow the money.

$2M per week for 5 Leno shows. I've heard $5-$15M per show for a scripted drama.

Whatever the figures, they slant significantly in favor of the Leno/Reality Show market when you are looking at the costs.

HBO and Showtime FTW. Possibly places like FX as well.
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2008, 09:55:18 AM »

Anyways, this decision should finally put the average daily scripted serials content below 50% of the total primetime available time... 

Follow the money.

$2M per week for 5 Leno shows. I've heard $5-$15M per show for a scripted drama.

Whatever the figures, they slant significantly in favor of the Leno/Reality Show market when you are looking at the costs.

HBO and Showtime FTW. Possibly places like FX as well.


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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2008, 09:55:56 AM »

Anyways, this decision should finally put the average daily scripted serials content below 50% of the total primetime available time... 

Follow the money.

$2M per week for 5 Leno shows. I've heard $5-$15M per show for a scripted drama.

Whatever the figures, they slant significantly in favor of the Leno/Reality Show market when you are looking at the costs.

HBO and Showtime FTW. Possibly places like FX as well.

I fully understand the budgetary reasons why they're doing it.  Just can't imagine that over the long haul it's the winning solution.  Will indeed just push more and more people to the ever-growing "premium channel" base.
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2008, 09:56:02 AM »

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Though Mr. Leno will command an enormous salary, probably more than $30 million a year, the cost of his show will be a fraction of what a network pays for dramas at 10 p.m. Those average about $3 million an episode. That adds up to $15 million a week to fill the 10 p.m. hour. Mr. Leno’s show is expected to cost less than $2 million a week.

In addition, NBC will get more weeks of original programming. Network dramas typically make 22 to 24 episodes a year. Under this deal, the executives involved in the discussions said, Mr. Leno will perform 46 weeks a year.

That cost differential will probably be enough for NBC to absorb any fall in ratings from its current slate of dramas. Mr. Leno has averaged 4.8 million viewers for his show this year, with a rating of 1.3, or 1.7 million people, in the category of viewers ages 18 to 49, which most advertisers favor.

http://www.nytimes.com/20...ness/media/09leno.html?hp
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2008, 09:59:03 AM »

Anyways, this decision should finally put the average daily scripted serials content below 50% of the total primetime available time... 

Follow the money.

$2M per week for 5 Leno shows. I've heard $5-$15M per show for a scripted drama.

Whatever the figures, they slant significantly in favor of the Leno/Reality Show market when you are looking at the costs.

HBO and Showtime FTW. Possibly places like FX as well.

I fully understand the budgetary reasons why they're doing it.  Just can't imagine that over the long haul it's the winning solution.  Will indeed just push more and more people to the ever-growing "premium channel" base.


Two words that have disappeared from every corporation in America.

NBC has Bravo, MSNBC, etc. They have been making their move into the premium channel base for a while. It appears that "free" network tv is dying a slow death along with newspapers, radio, etc.
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2008, 10:01:18 AM »

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Though Mr. Leno will command an enormous salary, probably more than $30 million a year, the cost of his show will be a fraction of what a network pays for dramas at 10 p.m. Those average about $3 million an episode. That adds up to $15 million a week to fill the 10 p.m. hour. Mr. Leno’s show is expected to cost less than $2 million a week.

In addition, NBC will get more weeks of original programming. Network dramas typically make 22 to 24 episodes a year. Under this deal, the executives involved in the discussions said, Mr. Leno will perform 46 weeks a year.

That cost differential will probably be enough for NBC to absorb any fall in ratings from its current slate of dramas. Mr. Leno has averaged 4.8 million viewers for his show this year, with a rating of 1.3, or 1.7 million people, in the category of viewers ages 18 to 49, which most advertisers favor.

http://www.nytimes.com/20...ness/media/09leno.html?hp

I don't know anyone in my local "pool of acquaintences/friends" that would watch more than 1 minute of Leno a week, and that's simply by channel surfing over it.  those 1.5m people or so in the 18-49 are probably 90%+ 45-49. 
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2008, 10:02:53 AM »

Anyways, this decision should finally put the average daily scripted serials content below 50% of the total primetime available time... 

Follow the money.

$2M per week for 5 Leno shows. I've heard $5-$15M per show for a scripted drama.

Whatever the figures, they slant significantly in favor of the Leno/Reality Show market when you are looking at the costs.

HBO and Showtime FTW. Possibly places like FX as well.

I fully understand the budgetary reasons why they're doing it.  Just can't imagine that over the long haul it's the winning solution.  Will indeed just push more and more people to the ever-growing "premium channel" base.


Two words that have disappeared from every corporation in America.

NBC has Bravo, MSNBC, etc. They have been making their move into the premium channel base for a while. It appears that "free" network tv is dying a slow death along with newspapers, radio, etc.

It's funny I think L+O:CI is much improved on (NBC's) USA network, and the In Plain Sight show is probably the best new show they have come up with... aside from Heroes S1 (which they then ruined since)  in the last 5+ years. 
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