[Politics/Religion] Paging Hannity...

It's crazy how much government sanctioned torture goes on...

i.e.  http://www.fairchild.af.m....asp?fsID=3771&page=1

As a heart attack.  Tens of thousands of American servicemen have gone through SERE and every last one of them has been subjected to harsher treatment than 99.9% of the prisoners poor, innocent victims of the evil Bush regime.  If you happen upon a graduate in your circle ask for a few details. 

"But they volunteered!!!" cry the apologists.  Well, so did the bad guys.

But then I'm not big on coddling terrorists.  *fudge* 'em I say.  If they want to attack our country they're going to get their just deserts.  Everyone wants to apologize for how terrible our military is treating our enemies.  Feel free to not apologize for me and all the other "wingnuts".

I know my opinion is not the flavor of the month so go ahead and pile on.   

[Thus pigeonholed as having the IQ of a PopTart for not towing the libtard line, Uisce links off to his compound in Idaho or maybe just to church along with all the other morons.]

Isn't part of volunteering that you can also QUIT whenever you want to? Are SERE "participants" tortured against their will? Are they not taught techniques on how to endure said torture? AND are they not afforded the "privilege" of stopping any torture simulation whenever they want it stopped? This "privilege" is what Mancow Muller and Christopher Hitchens had, and it's the same privilege that blowhard Hannity will have if he ever develops the backbone to experience the simulation himself.

What's fundamental is that disagreeing with the left earns you a label. 

I'm very much a middle of the road guy politically.  I think the Bush Administration was fairly useless.  I think Obama at least has the potential to do some good but I stop short of declaring him The Great Black Hope.  I'm a greenie but not militant about it.  I'm a fiscal conservative (which as you know does not equate to Republican.)  I think helping others is a good thing but I think I am better at it than the federal government.  Reduce my tax burden and I promise I'll accomplish good things with some of it and I'll keep a sharp eye on administration costs.  I think war is a bad thing but sometimes necessary.  I think Sean Hannity is a gob*feces*e just like Bill Maher and Al Franken.  How would it be if any of them could find a moderate position once in a while?  We'll never know.

So on and so forth. 

So I have no problem with the idea of torturing those bollocks whether it be for intel purposes or punishment.  Am I concerned about the process of determining WHO should be tortured?  Absolutely.  I'm not happy about the blinder they pulled on us there.  But torturing bona fide terrorists?  Green light all the way. 

I'm probably just fundamentally misunderstanding things.  How could it be otherwise?  Liberal = intellectual superman.  Other than = dumbass.  Isn't that how it's played these days?  Obviously the conservative talking heads earn a lot, maybe even all, of the *feces* that flies their way.  I don't think all of us who refuse to adhere to the lefty group think deserve the condescension thrown our way.

[And as much as I disagree with you on many of these things MFAWG I definitely recognize you as one who often does call a spade a spade even if it flies in the face of the standard liberal position.  I think we can disagree on this without your first sentence questioning my intelligence (the rest of your post is thoughtful and although I disagree with your conclusion on line #4 I have no problem with anything you say.)  Those digs are what bug people like me about some on the left.  I wish they'd a position without calling every conservative/Christian names.]

And supporting Obama earns you a label of "socialist" from the wingnuts.

It's interesting that you mention Maher in the same sentence as Hannity and Franken when Maher fancies himself a libertarian and is critical of both the right and left, although he's been far more critical of the right as of late (and with good reason obviously).

Or facist.  Or both in the same sentence which is puzzling.  I certainly don't suggest that the situation is one sided.  There are people on the far right who bug me at least as much as the far lefties.  However, I hang out a little bit here and in both reality and fantasy land I have friends among you.  I don't care what the wingnuts call me.  I kinda do care what those friends and acquaintances call me.  I took a long break from this place in the election season partially because it was nothing but an onslaught of smarmy threads demeaning people who hold positions other than liberal ones.


I was identifying gob*feces*es.  Maher can fancy himself whatever he wants but one thing is for sure - he's an *bunghole*.  As I was pointing out the extremists on all sides do not have my respect.  Maher, by any measure, is an extremist as are all people who hate everyone equally.

And if by "of late" you mean his entire career I'll agree with you.   

And how's this for a lefty position...

I absolutely believe that a Manhatten Project for alternative fuels is our best bet for neutralizing those whackos.  Develop the technology, figure out how to make it affordable and give it away to the rest of the world.  Within five years the Gulf nations supporting terrorism will revert to the dung piles they were prior to 75-100 years ago.