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[Politics/Religion] Thats going to leave a mark.

 
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[Politics/Religion] Thats going to leave a mark.
« on: December 03, 2010, 12:18:19 PM »

I've had a flag officer address me like this. It wasn't pleasant:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/y...ccains-dont-ask-criticism

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With all due respect, Mr. Chairman and Sen. McCain, it is true that, as chairman, I am not in charge of troops. But I have commanded three ships, a carrier battle group and two fleets. And I was most recently a service chief myself. For more than 40 years I have made decisions that affected and even risked the lives of young men and women.


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Re: [Politics/Religion] Thats going to leave a mark.
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2010, 09:34:03 PM »

You had a flag officer address you directly? Unless you had a couple of birds on your shoulders, wouldn't that have been breaking the chain of command?  Grin

So McCain's been out the military for what? 3 decades? And while he was in the military, he spent most of his time chasing tail, crashing planes, getting tortured as a POW, and serving as a desk jockey. So he has pretty much zero "command experience" to begin with. (How many troops do you command as a pilot?) And he thinks he knows better than Mullen about commanding troops?

Is McCain just trying to get Mullen on a technicality about "troops" (i.e. the Navy has "sailors" not "troops")? If not, the notion that Mullen doesn't have experience commanding "military personnel" is ludicrous.
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2010, 07:23:58 AM »

If you watch the video, Gates gives him a pretty good beatdown too:

'Our military has always been controlled by civilians, and we don't ask the troops permission to do much of anything'.
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2010, 09:07:04 AM »

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You had a flag officer address you directly? Unless you had a couple of birds on your shoulders, wouldn't that have been breaking the chain of command?

As I said, it was COMPLETELY terrifying. When the General's phone quits working, he wants to know why, and who the dumb*fudge* that screwed the whole network up was.

It actually wasn't at my end, but he definitely did not want to hear about it.
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