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Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2007, 07:28:34 PM » |
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Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2007, 07:34:48 PM » |
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Minnesota law does state that pedestrians have the "right-of-way".
..........and to pedestrians lawfully Yes, but you went the opposite direction of saying that they "don not have the right-of-way". You went on to somewhat clarify; however, our lawyer decided to correct your initial statement. I did not retract my initial statement(post). My rant was the overwhelming thought/mentality of the pedestrians, they, "empirically" have the right of way. I think our resident barrister was pointing out (I'm assuming) on my latter rant.(I was incorrect) I, having read the statute several times(thanks to you  ) can't find his intent. |
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Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2007, 07:37:16 PM » |
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I, having read the statute several times(thanks to you ) can't find his intent. Maybe his intent was for you to try to find his intent when he really didn't have an intent.  |
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Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2007, 07:46:00 PM » |
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Minnesota law does state that pedestrians have the "right-of-way".
..........and to pedestrians lawfully Yes, but you went the opposite direction of saying that they "don not have the right-of-way". You went on to somewhat clarify; however, our lawyer decided to correct your initial statement. I did not retract my initial statement(post). My rant was the overwhelming thought/mentality of the pedestrians, they, "empirically" have the right of way. I think our resident barrister was pointing out (I'm assuming) on my latter rant.(I was incorrect) I, having read the statute several times(thanks to you ) can't find his intent. I still think that the point was that there are times they have the right of way. Of course, it could also have to do with something in the latter part of your post now that I think about it. Well, whichever he was pointing out, he has gotten you to read Min law several times.  And you're welcome. |
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Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2007, 07:48:28 PM » |
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You still haven't said what happened. lol
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Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2007, 07:55:49 PM » |
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Sorry, I was just giving you the statute, which details those times when the pedestrian DOES have right-of-way as well as those times when he DOES NOT.
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Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2007, 07:56:52 PM » |
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Sorry, I was just giving you the statute, which details those times when the pedestrian DOES have right-of-way as well as those times when he DOES NOT.
And he read them several times. What's to be sorry about? The above discussion was quite fun. |
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Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2007, 07:59:18 PM » |
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I still think that the point was that there are times they have the right of way. Of
Did you actually read my OP?  (Nothing really happened. Sort of. I'll put together a "bit map" of tonight, to better explain. I'm just tired of trying to drive, and constantly running into these idots(no pun intended) who have heard that phrase, and think they can run out into traffic whenever they want because.............well............blah, blah blah blah!) Makes me crazy. |
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Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2007, 08:07:30 PM » |
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I still think that the point was that there are times they have the right of way. Of
Did you actually read my OP? (Nothing really happened. Sort of. I'll put together a "bit map" of tonight, to better explain. I'm just tired of trying to drive, and constantly running into these idots(no pun intended) who have heard that phrase, and think they can run out into traffic whenever they want because.............well............blah, blah blah blah!) Makes me crazy. Yep, I did. The whole rant. Every word, except for the ones that are filtered out. That's why I said in one of my posts that you went on to somewhat clarify that you don't mean that they never have the right-of-way, it's just that there are times that they don't have that legal right. And don't worry, I'm not one of those "idots" that walk/bike like everyone should kneel before them. So you won't have to worry about me pulling out in front of you if you ever see me biking somewhere. |
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Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2007, 08:43:11 PM » |
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Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2007, 08:45:00 PM » |
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Scenario A:
I'm coming home tonight, and make the turn around the 4th green......I see this kid walking toward the street. It's obvious, he hit his ball over the green, and through the street. I start to veer to the left, and he never loses stride, headed across the road..I slow down('cause I know he won't), and slam on my brakes, and swerve way left......He raises his club and mouths some words, like it's my fault for not allowing him free pass across the street.........like I almost hit him? I was an ass for not stopping to let him cross the street? WTF?
Scenario B:
Later tonight. We took Maddie to the park. Coming home, I signal, slow down, and veer right on the residential street (see graphic) And I'm talkin about 15 MPH at the most........Karen says "Hun, they were yelling at you for not letting those people cross." WTF??!!! The guy in the truck was at a stop sign! I was exiting a "Highway"! (It's St. Francis. What can I say? I don't make the rules, I just survive them)
I can see them being pissed if the truck went, but I can't stop for them..........
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Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2007, 08:47:18 PM » |
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Rich Corinthian Leather Jacket From: The Land of 10,000+ Slushy Ice Rinks
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Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2007, 08:59:32 PM » |
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Ouch, twice in one night. Once is more than plenty.
Sorry for giving you a hard time about your rant. It's dangerous when people don't follow the traffic laws. And it sure would feel horrible to hit someone even when you are the one following the rules.
On the other hand, I've almost been hit by drivers that aren't paying attention. Basically, I forgo the "right-of-way" unless the driver indicates that they will let me pass because I don't want to be hit. I've been in enough accidents in a car and enough near collisions both in a car and on my bike (I can assure you none were my fault) that I don't want to even come close to either happening again.
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Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2007, 11:05:54 PM » |
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169.06 SIGNS, SIGNALS, MARKINGS. Blah, blah, blah, blah: Subd. 5. Traffic-control signal. (a) Whenever traffic is controlled by traffic-control signals
exhibiting different colored lights, or colored lighted arrows, successively one at a time or in
combination, only the colors Green, Red, and Yellow shall be used, except for special pedestrian
signals carrying a word or legend. The traffic-control signal lights or colored lighted arrows
indicate and apply to drivers of vehicles and pedestrians[/i] as follows: Blah, blah, blah, explain what green-yellow-red means, blah, blah, blah, blah: Subd. 6. Pedestrian control signal. (a) Whenever special pedestrian-control signals
exhibiting the words "Walk" or "Don't Walk" or symbols of a "walking person" or "upraised
hand" are in place, the signals or symbols indicate as follows:
(1) A steady "Walk" signal or the symbol of a "walking person" indicates that a pedestrian
facing either of these signals may proceed across the roadway in the direction of the signal,
possibly in conflict with turning vehicles. Every driver of a vehicle shall yield the right-of-way to
such pedestrian except that the pedestrian shall yield the right-of-way to vehicles lawfully within
the intersection at the time that either signal indication is first shown. blah, blah, blah etcetera, etcetera, so on and so forth, etcetera. I wrote so much blah, blah, blah that I forgot WTF my  point is.... |
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Re: I Hate That *goshdarn* Phrase!!!!
« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2007, 08:16:33 AM » |
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Two things. #1 - Pedestrians - Kill them all, let Gawd sort them out. #2 - Death Race 2000 - Hit and run is no longer a felony. It's the national sport. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Race_2000Teenagers-BIG POINTS  |
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