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Woman pleads not guilty in Internet suicide case

 
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Re: Woman pleads not guilty in Internet suicide case
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2008, 08:26:58 AM »

BTW, the above is nowhere near my complete thoughts on the case - there are holes to fill - but I'm busy at work today and unable to lend enough time to the scribing.



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Re: Woman pleads not guilty in Internet suicide case
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2008, 10:30:18 PM »

Long day... getting longer.

Anyway - I started on this story from a different place than most of you are.  I read the early articles, I knew that more people than the mother were using the account, etc.  It still does not paint a very good picture of the adult involved - she's clearly a bitch.  However, she was unaware of the nasty turn the account communications took - unaware that an 'employee' of hers had ended the 'relationship' and was sending nasty messages using the account.  That this 'employee' was the one that sent the 'world would be better off without you' message.  The adult was clearly being a bitch, but played no role at all in the nasty turn the account took on that final sad day.

I already knew that Megan's response to the messages were nasty in nature themselves - that her own mother scolded her for sending them after repeatedly telling her to log off previously in the day; which resulted in the 'you're my mother, you're supposed to be on my side' cries by Megan right before she ran upstairs and hung herself.

I had already read that Megan had threatened to kill herself long before any of this began.

There was a lot going on here.


And anyone that thought I was equating this to schoolyard 'fatso' chants, well I apologize for not being specific.  I witnessed more than once a kid telling another that everyone hated them and they would be better off dead.  Very specific and applicable incidents to the one here.  One resulted in the girl running home crying... to be out the next day playing again as if nothing happened.  And a boy that wanted to beat up the kid that said it... I cannot recall who won the fight, I had no dog in that hunt.  These are clearly incidents of intentional infliction of emotional distress - yet resulted in nothing.  In this case, we're appalled by the result - a senseless suicide by a young girl.  We're allowing the sad result to cloud our judgment on harassment law IMO.  I'll say it again - its a slippery slope.


And now that I just looked up IIED, I find that its a Tort Law (not criminal, if thats the right term) and is often viewed unfavorably by courts because of the 'slippery slope'.  My GRE results did not lie  Wink

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Re: Woman pleads not guilty in Internet suicide case
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2008, 05:24:47 AM »

I didn't know it was a multi-party harassment account.   That mitigates a bit.  I can see your point.    But the 'bitch' set things in motion, after all.

Still, I think you are too harsh on the victim with the whole "she had issues, afterall" argument. 

Most kids her age can be categorized as emotionally unstable. T Especially with respect to how they deal with interpersonal relationships.  Many such kids, completely normal, are in therapy and receiving meds to help them cope with this difficult developmental period.

From my own experience with my own daughter who has passed and emerged from that horrible period, there seems to be this brief window of development when they are acutely sensitive to how they are perceived by peers and they take EVERYTHING literally. 

They have one foot in their childhood, where everyone is honest and certain things (like the internet) possess authority no less than their teachers and parents.  I cannot tell you how many times my daughter promised me that there was no possible way she could fall prey to an internet predator because, "Facebook doesn't allow those people to become members."  The innocence was lovely, but I just couldn't convince her otherwise.  At the same time, the kids become drunk with the freedom these online communities provide them.

The Facebook/Myspace communities make the natural self perception problems worse because  just like our little playground here, there are fewer inhibitions and far less nuance in communication, compared to the ways our species spent eon's of evolutionary time adapting.  The cute little emoticons at our disposal are a poor substitute for the infinite array of subtle non-verbal cues we deploy. 

The poor girl had no way to know that she was being yanked....with the complicity of adults, no less.

She was like a lamb thrown in a den of full of lions.  She didn't have a chance.
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